1/ #medtweetorial on bacteremia real or not real?
A 70yM comes in with SBO and tachycardia and leukocytosis. Blood cultures are sent on admission. 1 out of 2 comes back with Clostridium spp (not perfrigens/ septicum). To treat or not to treat?
A 70yM comes in with SBO and tachycardia and leukocytosis. Blood cultures are sent on admission. 1 out of 2 comes back with Clostridium spp (not perfrigens/ septicum). To treat or not to treat?
2/While true bacteremia needs to be aggressively treated, there is also a high rate of contamination. Figuring out which blood cultures represent true infection can be tricky.
3/ What is the contamination rate of blood cultures?
What is the chance a positive blood culture represents bacteremia?
There is a .6-12.5% contamination rate of blood cultures.
What is the chance a positive blood culture represents bacteremia?
There is a .6-12.5% contamination rate of blood cultures.
4/ However, when it comes to + blood cultures, 20-50% of + blood cultures are contaminants. There number vary widely from institution to institution based on how the cultures are obtained.
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5/ This is why it is important to consider the pre-test probability of bacteremia before obtaining cultures (see thread
6/ When thinking about contaminants, most are gram + organisms on the skin. Most gram – bacteremia are true infections. However, even an unlikely pathogen like S. epi, is likely true bacteremia if it grows in 2/2 cultures drawn correctly at 2 different venipuncture sites
7/ less than 1/1000 prob that this would occur by chance). Also, consider if the patient has a source for infection such as a medical device.
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8/ When the cultures come back with 1 out of 2 + for a gram + organism, it is trickier. S. aureus should always be treated as true bacteremia (87%/93% true infection).
9/ Other GP should be treated as true infection (w % true infection) include Enterococcus (63%/70%), S. pneumoniae (100%100%), B hemolytic strep (97%/67%), Clostridium spp. (not perfringens) (63%/80%). pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov and academic.oup.com
10/½ blood cultures + for these bacteremia is usually due to contamination: CoNS, Bacillus, Corynebacterium, Propionibacterium, Microccous, Aerococcus spp, and viridans group streptococcus.
11/ However, the clinical context should be determined, especially with CONS which can cause endocarditis/joint/device infections.
12/Check out this helpful graphic by @VarunPhadke2
13/ In conclusion
1. Treat gram - as bacteremia
2. 2/2 bacteria on blood cultures drawn from different sites usually bacteremia
3. S. aureus, Enterococcus, most Strep usually true bacteremia, even in 1/2 cultures.
4. CoNS, Bacillus, Corynebacterium ect. usually contaminants
1. Treat gram - as bacteremia
2. 2/2 bacteria on blood cultures drawn from different sites usually bacteremia
3. S. aureus, Enterococcus, most Strep usually true bacteremia, even in 1/2 cultures.
4. CoNS, Bacillus, Corynebacterium ect. usually contaminants
14/ In the first case, I would treat b/c 60-80 Clostridium spp true bacteremia and has a source, but it is never wrong to ask ID.
I should also clarify that when I say coag - staph, I really mean CoNS aside from S. lugdunensis which behaves in a more S. aureus-like manner.
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@sboonemd but once it is the same bacteria, even if a relatively common contaminant, this seems pretty unlikely unless they were drawn at the same site. The clinical picture will inform help inform this. Curious if any one else has thoughts.
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