Defining Hindu Unity
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My Debate-Discussion History with Sadhguru, ISKCON, Arya Samaj, Smartha Trads and other Sampradayas.
What I observed and concluded after few years of indulgence in Arguments and mental gymnastics. I can be wrong but here it is.
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My Debate-Discussion History with Sadhguru, ISKCON, Arya Samaj, Smartha Trads and other Sampradayas.
What I observed and concluded after few years of indulgence in Arguments and mental gymnastics. I can be wrong but here it is.
Starting from Basic Traditional Viewpoint of Vedas>Upanishad>Itihaas>Purans>Smeitis and their interpretations formed my ground while arguing with others. Believe me, this is enough to argue with every second person until the end of time.
Sadhguru | Isha | Agamic Shaivism
These people don't give much importance to scriptures, incline Shaivism. Sadhguru openly flaunts not being bound by any scriptures, text and even feels proud of never learning Sanskrit. So here is what our disagreement and argument begin.
These people don't give much importance to scriptures, incline Shaivism. Sadhguru openly flaunts not being bound by any scriptures, text and even feels proud of never learning Sanskrit. So here is what our disagreement and argument begin.
We try to explain to them why scriptures are the guiding force for all knowledge. Without it, everything in history will be lost. And Sadhguru's over secular attitude will cause us greater damage in long run.
Their followers after arguing a little, simply walk away with a smile.
Their followers after arguing a little, simply walk away with a smile.
A little deeper you observe them. They are following most of the scripture knowledge, but without whining about it 20 times a day. Lives have been changed, depression cured, No-Fap movement growing. All because of Sadhguru and followers. So here it's more results less talking.
With Sadhguru, I can learn a lot and make use to better my life. Or I can argue for differences and waste time. So I and many like me simply gave up arguing with them. As long as he spread Vegetarian, Satvic disciplined lifestyle to the messed up youth, why should anybody care?
ISKCON
These people are a typical Mix of Gaudiya and Madhava Vaishnav. With a pinch of Western Missionary spirit.
The point of difference is they deny Vedas Superiority and Consider Bhagwat Puran and Geeta as supreme. Krishna>Vishnu and again annoyingly Secularism.
These people are a typical Mix of Gaudiya and Madhava Vaishnav. With a pinch of Western Missionary spirit.
The point of difference is they deny Vedas Superiority and Consider Bhagwat Puran and Geeta as supreme. Krishna>Vishnu and again annoyingly Secularism.
Debate with ISKCONItes can go on for years. They are like machines, all Geeta memorised like anything and yet never aggressive. They are simply programmed towards their belief and never bother what everyone has to say. As if they don't care, they are simply satisfied within.
On Youtube, You will see fights between Iskcon Vs Arya Samaj on regular basis. Both busting each other but never have I observed anything below the belt from both sides. Puran VS No Puran being their favourite topic, with maintaining decency.
ISKCON followers are always up to something and never idol. Making beautiful graphics, Pictures of Bhakti, Krish, writing Poems. ISKCON influencers on all platforms would be seen making content promoting Brahmacharya, Vegetarian Food, Against Animal cruelty, and useful content.
Any sane man with an Iota of admiration for dharma would not waste their time indulging them in useless debate. Healthy arguments are always useful and we still do with ISKCON. But a feeling of Hate, repulsion never developed towards them. Follow- Hakuna Matata!
Arya Samaj | Shraut
These people believe Vedas as supreme and deny all Purans as Praman. And also deny Murti Pooja, which means denying the complete Agamic Culture. And here is the point of difference.
These people are the most irritating lot you will find among all.
These people believe Vedas as supreme and deny all Purans as Praman. And also deny Murti Pooja, which means denying the complete Agamic Culture. And here is the point of difference.
These people are the most irritating lot you will find among all.
Every time you try to explain or argue with an Arya Samaji. He/She will cancel 90% of your facts, calling it an adulteration or cancelling the evidence itself. It's almost impossible to win an argument with them. As they reject all kinds of divinity based on visible science.
The Internet is filled with Arya Samaji content against Islam, Christianity. These people are the most courageous creators against Abrahamics. And, all that is is based on Abrahamic Books themselves. There is some wild revolutionary aggression and fire inside these Arya Samajis.
Most Ghar Wapsi, Caste Unity and comparative studies are done by Arya Samaj. On YT are AS channels filled with content on Brahmcharya, Ayurveda and Yoga. No Hindu org can function without their support. RSS-VHP Ghar Wapsi Conversion operations are all outsourced to AS only.
Now again choice is mine. I can keep tingling them for certain issues. Or let them do what they are good at. Fix for Arya Samaj is to direct their energy more towards Abrahamics and Imparting Vedas. And less on bashing Indic Sampradayas.
Again Peace with Arya Samaj
Again Peace with Arya Samaj
Smartha Trads
Smartha Trads, Mostly followers of Puri+Dwarka Shankaracharya and Their Guru Karpatri. Though this is not for all Smartha Most Trads I am here talking about were Smarthas, disciples of the above-mentioned people.
Smartha Trads, Mostly followers of Puri+Dwarka Shankaracharya and Their Guru Karpatri. Though this is not for all Smartha Most Trads I am here talking about were Smarthas, disciples of the above-mentioned people.
There is no difference with Sm.Trads. It's all hate and toxicity towards them. There is not a single thing to like about these people. These people promote Child Marriage, Sati Burning of Women, Honor Killings, Slavery and R@$E Of women with different opinions.
Every time you start an argument with these people. It starts with them abusing your mother, Sister or gurus. Decency is an alien concept to these people. With a slightly opposing view, these Smartha Trads can Morph your or your Families Picture and post it on an adult site.
Many Hindu women, decent people had to leave Social Media and platforms due to these people. If there is anything Good coming for the Hindu cause, these people would be against it. They have called Sadhguru an Incest, Prabhupada a Pedophile, Dayanand Swamy, Son of Whore. Etc
Any person with a decent upbringing won't consider being 100 feet close to these diseased animals. But fools like me who did can tell you more about them.
The content they create is how Women are inferior, justifying child marriage, removing Dalits from Hinduism etc.
The content they create is how Women are inferior, justifying child marriage, removing Dalits from Hinduism etc.
There is no inclusiveness possible with this kind of Smartha Trads. Either everyone else should leave Hinduism to make them happy or do some arrangements against them. These people are anti-thesis to any of Hindu Unity.
Difference of Opinion, different Methods of worship, Shastrarth is a part of Sanatana Dharma. But it happens between Maanav(Human). It does not happen between Maanav and Daanav(Trads).
Daanav is above any kind of reason and not fit to live in a civilised society.
Daanav is above any kind of reason and not fit to live in a civilised society.
ISKCON, Sadhguru, Arya Samaj, Sri Sri, Goraknathis, Vaishnavs, Shaiv can easily co-exist. But all of us cannot be close to Danav like Esslam and Trads. Esslan reality is already out in open. It's time we realise the threat of the other mentioned daanav too.
Hence I Conclude 🙏
Hence I Conclude 🙏
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