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A (๐Ÿงต) regarding the salaf's understanding of Allฤh's Speech and its audibility
This will be a thread on the understanding of the salaf regarding this subject and the way it was understood by those who came after them
The emphasis of this thread will be on narrations or statements from books which have been peer-cited by others or at the very least confirm a common understanding on the matter
Imฤm Bukhฤrฤซ ุฑูŽุญูู…ูŽู‡ู ูฑู„ู„ูŽู‘ูฐู‡ู said in his creedal work khalq afโ€˜ฤl al-โ€˜ibฤd:
"ูˆูŽูŠูุฐู’ูƒูŽุฑู ุนูŽู†ู ุงู„ู†ูŽู‘ุจููŠูู‘ ุตูŽู„ูŽู‘ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ู ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ูˆูŽุณูŽู„ูŽู‘ู…ูŽ ุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ู‡ู ูƒูŽุงู†ูŽ ูŠูุญูุจูู‘ ุฃูŽู†ู’ ูŠูŽูƒููˆู†ูŽ ุงู„ุฑูŽู‘ุฌูู„ู ุฎูŽููŠุถูŽ ุงู„ุตูŽู‘ูˆู’ุชูุŒ ูˆูŽูŠูŽูƒูŽุฑูŽู‡ู ุฃูŽู†ู’ ูŠูŽูƒููˆู†ูŽ ุฑูŽูููŠุนูŽ ุงู„ุตูŽู‘ูˆู’ุชูุŒ ูˆูŽุฅูู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ูŽ ุนูŽุฒูŽู‘"
1/4
He then said:
"ูˆูŽุฌูŽู„ูŽู‘ โ€ŒูŠูู†ูŽุงุฏููŠ โ€ŒุจูุตูŽูˆู’ุชู ูŠูŽุณู’ู…ูŽุนูู‡ู ู…ูŽู†ู’ ุจูŽุนูุฏูŽ ูƒูŽู…ูŽุง ูŠูŽุณู’ู…ูŽุนูู‡ู ู…ูŽู†ู’ ู‚ูŽุฑูุจูŽุŒ ููŽู„ูŽูŠู’ุณูŽ ู‡ูŽุฐูŽุง ู„ูุบูŽูŠู’ุฑู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุนูŽุฒูŽู‘ ูˆูŽุฌูŽู„ูŽู‘ ุฐููƒู’ุฑูู‡ู ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุฃูŽุจููˆ ุนูŽุจู’ุฏู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู: " ูˆูŽูููŠ ู‡ูŽุฐูŽุง ุฏูŽู„ููŠู„ูŒ ุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุตูŽูˆู’ุชูŽ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู„ูŽุง ูŠูุดู’ุจูู‡ู ุฃูŽุตู’ูˆูŽุงุชูŽ ุงู„ู’ุฎูŽู„ู’ู‚ู"
2/4
He continued further:
"ู„ูุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุตูŽูˆู’ุชูŽ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุฌูŽู„ูŽู‘ ุฐููƒู’ุฑูู‡ู ูŠูุณู’ู…ูŽุนู ู…ูู†ู’ ุจูุนู’ุฏู ูƒูŽู…ูŽุง ูŠูุณู’ู…ูŽุนู ู…ูู†ู’ ู‚ูุฑู’ุจูุŒ ูˆูŽุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽู„ูŽุงุฆููƒูŽุฉูŽ ูŠูุตู’ุนูŽู‚ููˆู†ูŽ ู…ูู†ู’ ุตูŽูˆู’ุชูู‡ูุŒ ููŽุฅูุฐูŽุง ุชูŽู†ูŽุงุฏูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽู„ูŽุงุฆููƒูŽุฉู ู„ูŽู…ู’ ูŠูุตู’ุนูŽู‚ููˆุง"
3/4
And concluded with:
"ูˆูŽู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุนูŽุฒูŽู‘ ูˆูŽุฌูŽู„ูŽู‘: {ููŽู„ูŽุง ุชูŽุฌู’ุนูŽู„ููˆุง ู„ูู„ูู‘ู‡ู ุฃูŽู†ู’ุฏูŽุงุฏู‹ุง} [ุงู„ุจู‚ุฑุฉ: 22] ููŽู„ูŽูŠู’ุณูŽ ู„ูุตูููŽุฉู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู†ูุฏูŒู‘ุŒ ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ู…ูุซู’ู„ูŒุŒ ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏู ุดูŽูŠู’ุกูŒ ู…ูู†ู’ ุตูููŽุงุชูู‡ู ูููŠ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽุฎู’ู„ููˆู‚ููŠู†ูŽ"
4/4
Imฤm Bukhฤrฤซ: "It's been mentioned that the Prophet ๏ทบ liked a person to have a low voice and he used to dislike a person to have loud voice, and that Allฤh, the Most High, the Most Sublime, calls out in a Voice which is heard by those afar as it's heard by those nearby"
1/4
He continued: "and this (attribute) is for none other but Allฤh, the Most High, the Most Sublime. Abลซ 'Abdullฤh said: "And there is, in this (narration), evidence that Allฤh's Voice is not similar to the voices of created beings"
2/4
He then said: "because the Voice of Allฤh, the Most High, is heard from a long distance as it is heard from a short distance, and the angels fall unconscious from His Voice, but when the angels call out they don't fall unconscious"
3/4
He thus concluded:
"and (Allฤh) the Most High, the Most Sublime said: 'And don't set up equals to Allฤh' [2:22], hence no attribute is equal or similar to the Attribute of Allฤh and nothing of His Attributes is existent in His creation."
4/4
Similarly the first son of Imฤm Aแธฅmad narrated from his father that he said:
"ุฌุจุฑูŠู„ ุณู…ุนู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุชุนุงู„ู‰ ุŒ ูˆุงู„ู†ุจูŠ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู…ย ุณู…ุนู‡ ู…ู† ุฌุจุฑูŠู„ ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุตุญุงุจุฉ ุณู…ุนุชู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุจูŠ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู…"
The emphasis here is on actually hearing the Words
This is also similar to what al-Karkhฤซ shared from al-Isfarฤyฤซnฤซ to share the general consensus and highlight the Shฤfiสฟฤซ position
al-Isfarฤyฤซnฤซ said:
"ู…ุฐู‡ุจูŠ ูˆู…ุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ุดุงูุนูŠ ูˆูู‚ู‡ุงุก ุงู„ุฃู…ุตุงุฑ : ุฃู†ย ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูƒู„ุงู… ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุฎู„ูˆู‚ ุŒ ูˆู…ู† ู‚ุงู„ : ู…ุฎู„ูˆู‚ ูู‡ูˆ ูƒุงูุฑ"
He continued:
"ูˆุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ุญู…ู„ู‡ ุฌุจุฑูŠู„ย ู…ุณู…ูˆุนุง ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุŒ ูˆุงู„ู†ุจูŠ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ุณู…ุนู‡ ู…ู† ุฌุจุฑูŠู„ ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุตุญุงุจุฉ ุณู…ุนูˆู‡ ู…ู†ย ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู…"
al-Isfarฤyฤซnฤซ said that the position if his maแธhab, Shฤfiสฟฤซ, and of the fuqahฤ (in general) is that the Qurสผฤn is uncreated, and he who claims otherwise has disbelieved. He then continued to mention that jibrฤซl heard it from Allฤh, as did the companions from the prophet ๏ทบ
Therefore, it's clear that the Aศ™แธฅฤb al-แธคadiแนฏh held this position and those who followed Imฤm Aแธฅmad ุฑูŽุญูู…ูŽู‡ู ูฑู„ู„ูŽู‘ูฐู‡ู in his creed
This includes the likes of:
- Ibn Qudฤmah
- สฟAbd al-Qฤdir al-Jฤซlฤnฤซ
- al-Harawฤซ
- Ibn mandah
Among many others from different maแธฤhib
Many of them mentioned an ijmฤสฟ on this matter from the salaf and this was confirmed by al-Shahrastฤnฤซ who said the following about the emergence of the other conflicting position
al-Shahrastฤnฤซ: "al-Ashสฟarฤซ innovated a third position and judged with the emergence of the letters, and this is the loss of the ijmฤสฟ, and he judged that what we read is Allฤh's kalฤm (but) only metaphorically (and) not haqiqatan, and this is pure innovation"
Similarly, Ibn Qudฤmah said:
"ูˆู„ุง ูŠุฎุชู„ู ููŠู‡ุง ุฃุญุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู† ุฌุงุก ุงู„ุฃุดุนุฑูŠ ูุฃู†ูƒุฑู‡ุง"
That there was no disagreement on this issue until al-Ashสฟarฤซ emerged"

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