Meta Thread: Hypergamy
Ever wonder why the nice guy finishes last?
Why most men struggle with women?
This is because of hypergamy: the female evolutionary machinery that selects for "tournament males."
Ever wonder why the nice guy finishes last?
Why most men struggle with women?
This is because of hypergamy: the female evolutionary machinery that selects for "tournament males."
What are tournament males?
When new technology upends our balance with nature and our ability to survive, certain men are better at surviving and outcompete other men.
Technology *selects* men.
Read my tournamales vs pairbonders before continuing:
When new technology upends our balance with nature and our ability to survive, certain men are better at surviving and outcompete other men.
Technology *selects* men.
Read my tournamales vs pairbonders before continuing:
Here's a historical example of this from @wrathofgnon.
When the horse was introduced to Indian culture in North America, it upended the former balance between males, with select men being superior at hunting than other males.
When the horse was introduced to Indian culture in North America, it upended the former balance between males, with select men being superior at hunting than other males.
These new tournamales' production was simply better than the other, less naturally endowed males, and because of this, female reproductive selection chose them.
The introduction of the horse naturally altered American Indian culture toward polygamy:
The introduction of the horse naturally altered American Indian culture toward polygamy:
The process goes as follows: technology changes our balance with nature, which then selects males who have characteristics that make them superior to other men, which then leads to women selecting them.
Technology selects for tournamales, then females select for them.
Technology selects for tournamales, then females select for them.
What is hypergamy?
Hypergamy is the unconscious female ability to judge a man based on certain cultural characteristics that imply superior ability to survive in relation to other men.
Even in very affluent cultures, women still judge men in relation to other men.
Hypergamy is the unconscious female ability to judge a man based on certain cultural characteristics that imply superior ability to survive in relation to other men.
Even in very affluent cultures, women still judge men in relation to other men.
Hypergamy does not judge raw "survival," it only understands survival in relation to other men's ability to survive. Female hypergamy organizes men in a hierarchy based on cultural queues, and females with hypergamic machinery (most women) will be attracted to the top men.
Man did not start as a pure tournamale species. We started skewing that way as technology altered the pressure of selection. This meant tournament males outcompeted pairbonders, and hypergamous women outcompeted non-hypergamous women.
This is an important point: how hypergamic women are is varied. Some women are extremely hypergamic, some less so.
The same goes with tournamales. Some are extremely tournament focused, some less so.
It all occurs on a spectrum.
The same goes with tournamales. Some are extremely tournament focused, some less so.
It all occurs on a spectrum.
If women didn't have this judging machinery way back in the Neolithic era, it meant they literally *died* under the care of a shitty provider. Because of the intense need to take care of their children, they'd be willing to share a top man with other women.
Any time a culture has a massive skewing due to technology towards tournament males, women will start engaging in polygamous relationships.
This is extreme hypergamy in action:
This is extreme hypergamy in action:
Even though we don't appear to have any modern survival pressure, women have very strong hypergamic machinery courtesy of evolution.
"But I'm a nice guy, why doesn't she like me?"
Because she unconsciously ranked you.
"But I'm a nice guy, why doesn't she like me?"
Because she unconsciously ranked you.
How does she rank? Partially from cultural queues, but majority from the "shit test":
Women will behave in a way that is aimed to test your self dignity.
An example: You're out with the guys and she wants your time and attention.
What she wants > What you want
Fail.
Women will behave in a way that is aimed to test your self dignity.
An example: You're out with the guys and she wants your time and attention.
What she wants > What you want
Fail.
There are endless shit tests, but the purpose of them is ultimately to "test" your rank in the hierarchy and lack of options.
Women don't know exactly how men rank, they have to learn it through shit testing.
Women don't know exactly how men rank, they have to learn it through shit testing.
The female shit test ultimately is an attack on the male frame.
If your frame breaks in any of these areas, your perceived rank in her head falls.
I outline it here:
If your frame breaks in any of these areas, your perceived rank in her head falls.
I outline it here:
Raw hypergamy appears technically *outdated* in the modern affluence paradigm. This is why so many men struggle with the self-evident contradiction it poses.
"I will totally be there and take care of the kids! Why don't you like me? I'm a good guy."
Nope.
"I will totally be there and take care of the kids! Why don't you like me? I'm a good guy."
Nope.
Most modern men have this fairy tale idea of a relationship, that having a good job and "serving" a woman is the pinnacle of the male archetype.
I blame modern TV, in particular sitcoms.
I blame modern TV, in particular sitcoms.
Men that think this way are essentially playing the wrong game.
Up until recent generations, no man would ever have thought this way. The pursuit of a "Rachel Green" type woman (a terrible human) wasn't the end all be all.
Monica was way better (great cook, served her man).
Up until recent generations, no man would ever have thought this way. The pursuit of a "Rachel Green" type woman (a terrible human) wasn't the end all be all.
Monica was way better (great cook, served her man).
The right game is understanding the landscape of tournamales and hypergamy.
A man's job is to develop his frame (standards, habits, interests) and assert his frame (without breaking) endlessly to develop his dignity.
A man's job is to develop his frame (standards, habits, interests) and assert his frame (without breaking) endlessly to develop his dignity.
What exactly is being selected for isn't always clear, as cultural needs shift with technology.
In a peaceful social media paradigm, women may select for attractiveness, money, confidence
In war times, they may select for fighting qualities, ability to pillage enemies, etc.
In a peaceful social media paradigm, women may select for attractiveness, money, confidence
In war times, they may select for fighting qualities, ability to pillage enemies, etc.
Different paradigms mean different ethics/standards, different habits, different interests.
There are qualities that transcend all paradigms, however.
There are qualities that transcend all paradigms, however.
Some qualities:
Physical strength (works out, fighting)
Physical attractiveness (well groomed)
Productive ability (makes money)
Fashion (up to date style)
Leadership (leads other men)
Mindset (will not allow frame to be broken)
Physical strength (works out, fighting)
Physical attractiveness (well groomed)
Productive ability (makes money)
Fashion (up to date style)
Leadership (leads other men)
Mindset (will not allow frame to be broken)
Mindset is key: A true tournament male will always protect his dignity.
Ross Geller never had options that compared (in his mind) to Rachel, that's why he was always a pathetic simp for YEARS.
If you are truly higher in the hierarchy, you will never break your frame.
Ross Geller never had options that compared (in his mind) to Rachel, that's why he was always a pathetic simp for YEARS.
If you are truly higher in the hierarchy, you will never break your frame.
Tournament males also always get their competitive ability from technology. In the Native American example, it was the superior hunting skill that came from addition of the horse.
A modern equivalent would be skill with developing an internet business or social media presence.
A modern equivalent would be skill with developing an internet business or social media presence.
Once you've established yourself as a tournament male, and have women vying for you via hypergamy, what do YOU then select for?
This is the next question.
Most guys who are using "game" to *trick* the machinery of hypergamy fail this part.
This is the next question.
Most guys who are using "game" to *trick* the machinery of hypergamy fail this part.
A true tournamale is mission based: he is asserting his frame outward into reality, and the primary purpose of a partner is to aid that mission.
For the Native Indian tournamales from the earlier example, the women did almost EVERYTHING outside of the man hunting.
For the Native Indian tournamales from the earlier example, the women did almost EVERYTHING outside of the man hunting.
In addition to the example from @wrathofgnon earlier in the thread, a read of this example from the Nez Perce tribe:
Whenever you find a culture where strong tournament males persist, you see women happily working for them.
Most modern men would bristle at this, because the modern gynocentric order we live in today puts female dignity on a pedestal viz a man's.
Most modern men would bristle at this, because the modern gynocentric order we live in today puts female dignity on a pedestal viz a man's.
I am not saying you should suddenly get your wife or girlfriend to do everything, you may not deserve such privileges.
I am just pointing out the differences in other paradigms, and to get you thinking outside of current programming.
I am just pointing out the differences in other paradigms, and to get you thinking outside of current programming.
In conclusion, tournamale/hypergamy is the real game being played.
The Meta.
To succeed, work on your frame, assert it endlessly, and deprogram from the gynocentric order for a great life.
There is no joy for men when women lead.
Isaiah 3:12
The Meta.
To succeed, work on your frame, assert it endlessly, and deprogram from the gynocentric order for a great life.
There is no joy for men when women lead.
Isaiah 3:12
@btcunclesam Can you explain this more?
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