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A (๐Ÿงต) in regards to delegating or leaving the text
One of the errors from ahlul-kalฤm and the mufawwiแธah is that they believe certain terms equals to tafwฤซd al-maสฟnฤ per se
Such as:
-Pass it on as it came
-Delegate the meaning
-Don't interpret it
This, however, is incorrect
1. "Passing it on as it came"
People tend to ascribe tafwฤซแธ al- maสฟnฤ whenever an Imฤm speaks in such a way
However, this more often than not refers to a discouragement to re-interpret it in a manner where the text itself would be distorted
Ibn al-Qayyim: People disagreed on many legal rulings, yet they didnโ€™t disagree on the Verses pertinent to the Sifฤt and its indications
Rather, the Sahฤbah and Tฤbiโ€™un unanimously agreed on acknowledging them and passing them on while understanding their meanings and realities
Similarly, passing it on doesn't negate affirmation of the meaning unless specified
Sufyฤn ibn Uyayna said: "ูƒู„ ุดูŠุก ูˆุตู ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุจู‡ ู†ูุณู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูู‚ุฑุงุกุชู‡ ุชูุณูŠุฑู‡ุŒ ู„ุง ูƒูŠู ูˆู„ุง ู…ุซู„"
That its recitation is its interpretation in regards to what Allฤh described Himself with
Imฤm adh-Dhahabฤซ commented on this and said:
"ูˆูƒู…ุง ู‚ุงู„ ุณููŠุงู† ูˆุบูŠุฑู‡: ู‚ุฑุงุกุชู‡ุง ุชูุณูŠุฑู‡ุงุŒ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุจูŠู†ุฉ ูˆุงุถุญุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ู„ุง ูŠุจุชุบูŠ ู„ู‡ุง ู…ุถุงูŠู‚ ุงู„ุชุฃูˆูŠู„ ูˆุงู„ุชุญุฑูŠู. ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ุณู„ูุŒ ู…ุน ุงุชูุงู‚ู‡ู… ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู„ุง ุชุดุจู‡ ุตูุงุช ุงู„ุจุดุฑ ุจูˆุฌู‡ุŒ ุฅุฐ ุงู„ุจุงุฑูŠ ู„ุง ู…ุซู„ ู„ู‡ุŒ ู„ุง ููŠ ุฐุงุชู‡ุŒ ูˆู„ุง ููŠ ุตูุงุชู‡."
He said: as Sufyฤn and others said: โ€˜Its recitation is in fact its interpretation โ€“ which means, it's obvious and clear in the language, such that one should not opt for (a different) interpretation or distortion"
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"This is the Maแธhab of the Salaf, while they all agree that they do not resemble the attributes of man. For Allฤh has no likeness, neither in His Essence, nor in His Attributes"
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Prior to this he said: "ุงู„ู…ุชุฃุฎุฑูˆู† ู…ู† ุฃู‡ู„ ุงู„ู†ุธุฑ ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง ู…ู‚ุงู„ุฉ ู…ูˆู„ุฏุฉุŒ ู…ุง ุนู„ู…ุช ุฃุญุฏุงู‹ ุณุจู‚ู‡ู… ุจู‡ุง. ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง: ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูุงุช ุชู…ุฑ ูƒู…ุง ุฌุงุกุช ูˆู„ุง ุชุคูˆู„ุŒ ู…ุน ุงุนุชู‚ุงุฏ ุฃู† ุธุงู‡ุฑู‡ุง ุบูŠุฑ"
adh-Dhahabฤซ:"The latter ones from the speculative theologians invented a new belief. I do not know of anyone preceding them in that.
They said: "These attributes are passed on as they have come and not interpreted while believing that the apparent meaning is not intended"
2. "Delegate the meaning or text"
Furthermore, there is this misconception that Salafi's don't delegate the text in any way
That's incorrect as salafi's delegate anything which goes pass the "kayf" to Allฤh
So the question then is, what does that entail?
Imฤm Ibn khuzaymah, after mentioning the transmisions from the scholars of the hijaz and iraq:
"ูู†ุดู‡ุฏ ุดู‡ุงุฏุฉ ู…ู‚ุฑ ุจู„ุณุงู†ู‡ ู…ุตุฏู‚ ุจู‚ู„ุจู‡ ู…ุชูŠู‚ู† ุจู…ุง ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ู…ู† ุฐูƒุฑ ุงู„ู†ุฒูˆู„ุŒ ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ุฃู† ู†ุตู ุงู„ูƒูŠููŠุฉุŒ ู„ุฃู† ู†ุจูŠู†ุง ๏ทบ ู„ู… ูŠุตู ู„ู†ุง ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ู†ุฒูˆู„ ุฎุงู„ู‚ู†ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณู…ุงุก ุงู„ุฏู†ูŠุงุŒ ูˆุฃุนู„ู…ู†ุง ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู†ุฒู„"
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He continued:
"ูˆุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนุฒ ูˆุฌู„ ูˆู„ูŽู‘ู‰ ู†ุจูŠู‡ ๏ทบ ุจูŠุงู† ู…ุง ุจุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุญุงุฌุฉ ู…ู† ุฃู…ุฑ ุฏูŠู†ู‡ู…ุŒ ูู†ุญู† ู‚ุงุฆู„ูˆู† ู…ุตุฏู‚ูˆู† ุจู…ุง ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ุฒูˆู„ุŒ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุชูƒู„ููŠู† ู„ู„ู†ุฒูˆู„ ุจุตูุฉ ุงู„ูƒูŠููŠุฉุŒ ุฅุฐ ุงู„ู†ุจูŠ ๏ทบ ู„ู… ูŠุตู ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงู„ู†ุฒูˆู„"
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Imฤm Ibn-khuzayma started by attesting that the reports have a certainty to them, without describing "how"
He then continues by saying that this is due to the fact that the Prophet ๏ทบ did not explain how Allฤh descended to the lower heaven, but he, nonetheless, informed us of it
Further on he said that the Prophet ๏ทบ had been given the task to explain the matters of dฤซn
Therefore, it's obligatory to attest to the reports (affirmation) and to not go beyond the kayf i.e. delve further into the finer details of it since the Prophet ๏ทบ didn't go beyond that
3. "Don't interpret it"
This is a classic one which people tend to misunderstand. There is always some form of interpretation when we read the nuแนฃลซแนฃ.
The real question is, what shouldn't be interpreted? Or to what degree does one leave it as it is?
Imฤm al-Qฤsim said:
"ู‡ูŽุฐูู‡ู ุงู„ู’ุฃูŽุญูŽุงุฏููŠุซู ุตูุญูŽุงุญูŒ ุญูŽู…ูŽู„ูŽู‡ูŽุง ุฃูŽุตู’ุญูŽุงุจู ุงู„ู’ุญูŽุฏููŠุซู ูˆุงู„ูู‚ู‡ุงุก ุจุนุถู‡ู… ุนู„ู‰ ุจูŽุนู’ุถูุŒ ูˆู‡ููŠูŽ ุนูู†ู’ุฏูŽู†ูŽุง ุญูŽู‚ูŒู‘ ู„ูŽุง ู†ูŽุดููƒูู‘ ูููŠู‡ูŽุง"
"ูˆูŽู„ูŽูƒูู†ู’ ุฅูุฐูŽุง ู‚ููŠู„ูŽ: ูƒูŽูŠู’ููŽ ูˆูŽุถูŽุนูŽ ู‚ูŽุฏูŽู…ูŽู‡ูุŸ ูˆูŽูƒูŽูŠู’ููŽ ุถูŽุญููƒูŽุŸ ู‚ูู„ู’ู†ูŽุง: ู„ูŽุง ูŠูููŽุณูŽู‘ุฑ ู‡ูŽุฐูŽุง ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ุณูŽู…ูุนู’ู†ูŽุง ุฃูŽุญูŽุฏู‹ุง ูŠูููŽุณูู‘ุฑูู‡ู."
He said: "These authentic narrations have been transmitted by the people of hadith and the jurists, from one to another, and they are the truth for us and we won't doubt them"
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He continued: "However, when it is asked, 'How did He put his foot on Hellfire?' And 'How did He laugh?' We reply, 'They shouldn't be interpreted and we have heard no one interpreting them."
This is a clear example from the salaf where their "interpretation" stops at the how
However, there is another context in which this statement "Don't interpret it" was used, and this was due to the followers of Jahm who went way beyond the "kayf" and re-interpreted the nuแนฃลซแนฃ to a large degree
ash-Shaybฤnฤซ said: ",ุงุชูŽู‘ููŽู‚ูŽ ุงู„ู’ููู‚ูŽู‡ูŽุงุกู ูƒูู„ูู‘ู‡ูู…ู’ ู…ูู†ูŽ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽุดู’ุฑูู‚ู ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽุบู’ุฑูุจู ุนูŽู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ุฅููŠู…ูŽุงู†ู ุจูุงู„ู’ู‚ูุฑู’ุขู†ู ูˆูŽุงู„ู’ุฃูŽุญูŽุงุฏููŠุซู ุงู„ูŽู‘ุชููŠ ุฌูŽุงุกูŽ ุจูู‡ูŽุง ุงู„ุซูู‘ู‚ูŽุงุชู ุนูŽู†ู’ ุฑูŽุณููˆู„ู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุตูŽู„ูŽู‘ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ู ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ูˆูŽุณูŽู„ูŽู‘ู…ูŽ ูููŠ
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He continued:
"ุตูููŽุฉู ุงู„ุฑูŽู‘ุจูู‘ ุนูŽุฒูŽู‘ ูˆูŽุฌูŽู„ูŽู‘ ู…ูู†ู’ ุบูŽูŠู’ุฑู ุชูŽุบู’ูŠููŠุฑู ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ูˆูŽุตู’ูู ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ุชูŽุดู’ุจููŠู‡ู , ููŽู…ูŽู†ู’ ููŽุณูŽู‘ุฑูŽ ุงู„ู’ูŠูŽูˆู’ู…ูŽ ุดูŽูŠู’ุฆู‹ุง ู…ูู†ู’ ุฐูŽู„ููƒูŽ , ููŽู‚ูŽุฏู’ ุฎูŽุฑูŽุฌูŽ ู…ูู…ูŽู‘ุง ูƒูŽุงู†ูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ุงู„ู†ูŽู‘ุจููŠูู‘ ุตูŽู„ูŽู‘ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ู ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ูˆูŽุณูŽู„ูŽู‘ู…ูŽ"
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And concluded: "ูˆูŽููŽุงุฑูŽู‚ูŽ ุงู„ู’ุฌูŽู…ูŽุงุนูŽุฉูŽ , ููŽุฅูู†ูŽู‘ู‡ูู…ู’ ู„ูŽู…ู’ ูŠูŽุตููููˆุง ูˆูŽู„ูŽู…ู’ ูŠูููŽุณูู‘ุฑููˆุง , ูˆูŽู„ูŽูƒูู†ู’ ุฃูŽูู’ุชูŽูˆู’ุง ุจูู…ูŽุง ูููŠ ุงู„ู’ูƒูุชูŽุงุจู ูˆูŽุงู„ุณูู‘ู†ูŽู‘ุฉู ุซูู…ูŽู‘ ุณูŽูƒูŽุชููˆุง , ููŽู…ูŽู†ู’ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุจูู‚ูŽูˆู’ู„ู ุฌูŽู‡ู’ู…ู ููŽู‚ูŽุฏู’ ููŽุงุฑูŽู‚ูŽ ุงู„ู’ุฌูŽู…ูŽุงุนูŽุฉูŽุ› ู„ูุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู‚ูŽุฏู’ ูˆูŽุตูŽููŽู‡ู ุจูุตูููŽุฉู ู„ูŽุง ุดูŽูŠู’ุกูŽ"
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ash-Shaybฤnฤซ: All of the jurists from the East to the West are unanimously agreed in having faith in the Qur'ฤn and the สพaแธฅฤdฤซแนฏ which came through the trustworthy narrators from the Prophet ๏ทบ on the description of the Lord without change, nor description and nor tashbฤซh
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"So whoever explained anything from that today, then he has departed from that which the Prophet ๏ทบ was upon and he has separated from jamฤสปah, for they did not describe & explain, however they gave verdicts upon what is in the Book and the Sunnah then they remained silent"
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He concluded: "(but) Whoever spoke with the saying of Jahm, then he has separated from the jamฤสปah because he described Him with the description of a non - entity"
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Obviously there are other examples, but i had to limit it to these few given the length of the thread

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