A (๐งต) in regards to delegating or leaving the text
One of the errors from ahlul-kalฤm and the mufawwiแธah is that they believe certain terms equals to tafwฤซd al-maสฟnฤ per se
Such as:
-Pass it on as it came
-Delegate the meaning
-Don't interpret it
This, however, is incorrect
One of the errors from ahlul-kalฤm and the mufawwiแธah is that they believe certain terms equals to tafwฤซd al-maสฟnฤ per se
Such as:
-Pass it on as it came
-Delegate the meaning
-Don't interpret it
This, however, is incorrect
1. "Passing it on as it came"
People tend to ascribe tafwฤซแธ al- maสฟnฤ whenever an Imฤm speaks in such a way
However, this more often than not refers to a discouragement to re-interpret it in a manner where the text itself would be distorted
People tend to ascribe tafwฤซแธ al- maสฟnฤ whenever an Imฤm speaks in such a way
However, this more often than not refers to a discouragement to re-interpret it in a manner where the text itself would be distorted
Ibn al-Qayyim: People disagreed on many legal rulings, yet they didnโt disagree on the Verses pertinent to the Sifฤt and its indications
Rather, the Sahฤbah and Tฤbiโun unanimously agreed on acknowledging them and passing them on while understanding their meanings and realities
Rather, the Sahฤbah and Tฤbiโun unanimously agreed on acknowledging them and passing them on while understanding their meanings and realities
Similarly, passing it on doesn't negate affirmation of the meaning unless specified
Sufyฤn ibn Uyayna said: "ูู ุดูุก ูุตู ุงููู ุจู ููุณู ูู ุงููุฑุขู ููุฑุงุกุชู ุชูุณูุฑูุ ูุง ููู ููุง ู ุซู"
That its recitation is its interpretation in regards to what Allฤh described Himself with
Sufyฤn ibn Uyayna said: "ูู ุดูุก ูุตู ุงููู ุจู ููุณู ูู ุงููุฑุขู ููุฑุงุกุชู ุชูุณูุฑูุ ูุง ููู ููุง ู ุซู"
That its recitation is its interpretation in regards to what Allฤh described Himself with
Imฤm adh-Dhahabฤซ commented on this and said:
"ููู ุง ูุงู ุณููุงู ูุบูุฑู: ูุฑุงุกุชูุง ุชูุณูุฑูุงุ ูุนูู ุฃููุง ุจููุฉ ูุงุถุญุฉ ูู ุงููุบุฉ ูุง ูุจุชุบู ููุง ู ุถุงูู ุงูุชุฃููู ูุงูุชุญุฑูู. ููุฐุง ูู ู ุฐูุจ ุงูุณููุ ู ุน ุงุชูุงููู ุฃูุถุงู ุฃููุง ูุง ุชุดุจู ุตูุงุช ุงูุจุดุฑ ุจูุฌูุ ุฅุฐ ุงูุจุงุฑู ูุง ู ุซู ููุ ูุง ูู ุฐุงุชูุ ููุง ูู ุตูุงุชู."
"ููู ุง ูุงู ุณููุงู ูุบูุฑู: ูุฑุงุกุชูุง ุชูุณูุฑูุงุ ูุนูู ุฃููุง ุจููุฉ ูุงุถุญุฉ ูู ุงููุบุฉ ูุง ูุจุชุบู ููุง ู ุถุงูู ุงูุชุฃููู ูุงูุชุญุฑูู. ููุฐุง ูู ู ุฐูุจ ุงูุณููุ ู ุน ุงุชูุงููู ุฃูุถุงู ุฃููุง ูุง ุชุดุจู ุตูุงุช ุงูุจุดุฑ ุจูุฌูุ ุฅุฐ ุงูุจุงุฑู ูุง ู ุซู ููุ ูุง ูู ุฐุงุชูุ ููุง ูู ุตูุงุชู."
He said: as Sufyฤn and others said: โIts recitation is in fact its interpretation โ which means, it's obvious and clear in the language, such that one should not opt for (a different) interpretation or distortion"
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"This is the Maแธhab of the Salaf, while they all agree that they do not resemble the attributes of man. For Allฤh has no likeness, neither in His Essence, nor in His Attributes"
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Prior to this he said: "ุงูู
ุชุฃุฎุฑูู ู
ู ุฃูู ุงููุธุฑ ูุงููุง ู
ูุงูุฉ ู
ููุฏุฉุ ู
ุง ุนูู
ุช ุฃุญุฏุงู ุณุจููู
ุจูุง. ูุงููุง: ูุฐู ุงูุตูุงุช ุชู
ุฑ ูู
ุง ุฌุงุกุช ููุง ุชุคููุ ู
ุน ุงุนุชูุงุฏ ุฃู ุธุงูุฑูุง ุบูุฑ"
adh-Dhahabฤซ:"The latter ones from the speculative theologians invented a new belief. I do not know of anyone preceding them in that.
They said: "These attributes are passed on as they have come and not interpreted while believing that the apparent meaning is not intended"
They said: "These attributes are passed on as they have come and not interpreted while believing that the apparent meaning is not intended"
2. "Delegate the meaning or text"
Furthermore, there is this misconception that Salafi's don't delegate the text in any way
That's incorrect as salafi's delegate anything which goes pass the "kayf" to Allฤh
So the question then is, what does that entail?
Furthermore, there is this misconception that Salafi's don't delegate the text in any way
That's incorrect as salafi's delegate anything which goes pass the "kayf" to Allฤh
So the question then is, what does that entail?
Imฤm Ibn khuzaymah, after mentioning the transmisions from the scholars of the hijaz and iraq:
"ููุดูุฏ ุดูุงุฏุฉ ู ูุฑ ุจูุณุงูู ู ุตุฏู ุจููุจู ู ุชููู ุจู ุง ูู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ู ู ุฐูุฑ ุงููุฒููุ ู ู ุบูุฑ ุฃู ูุตู ุงูููููุฉุ ูุฃู ูุจููุง ๏ทบ ูู ูุตู ููุง ููููุฉ ูุฒูู ุฎุงูููุง ุฅูู ุงูุณู ุงุก ุงูุฏููุงุ ูุฃุนูู ูุง ุฃูู ููุฒู"
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"ููุดูุฏ ุดูุงุฏุฉ ู ูุฑ ุจูุณุงูู ู ุตุฏู ุจููุจู ู ุชููู ุจู ุง ูู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ู ู ุฐูุฑ ุงููุฒููุ ู ู ุบูุฑ ุฃู ูุตู ุงูููููุฉุ ูุฃู ูุจููุง ๏ทบ ูู ูุตู ููุง ููููุฉ ูุฒูู ุฎุงูููุง ุฅูู ุงูุณู ุงุก ุงูุฏููุงุ ูุฃุนูู ูุง ุฃูู ููุฒู"
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He continued:
"ูุงููู ุนุฒ ูุฌู ููููู ูุจูู ๏ทบ ุจูุงู ู ุง ุจุงูู ุณูู ูู ุฅููู ุงูุญุงุฌุฉ ู ู ุฃู ุฑ ุฏูููู ุ ููุญู ูุงุฆููู ู ุตุฏููู ุจู ุง ูู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ู ู ุฐูู ุงููุฒููุ ุบูุฑ ู ุชููููู ูููุฒูู ุจุตูุฉ ุงูููููุฉุ ุฅุฐ ุงููุจู ๏ทบ ูู ูุตู ููููุฉ ุงููุฒูู"
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"ูุงููู ุนุฒ ูุฌู ููููู ูุจูู ๏ทบ ุจูุงู ู ุง ุจุงูู ุณูู ูู ุฅููู ุงูุญุงุฌุฉ ู ู ุฃู ุฑ ุฏูููู ุ ููุญู ูุงุฆููู ู ุตุฏููู ุจู ุง ูู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ู ู ุฐูู ุงููุฒููุ ุบูุฑ ู ุชููููู ูููุฒูู ุจุตูุฉ ุงูููููุฉุ ุฅุฐ ุงููุจู ๏ทบ ูู ูุตู ููููุฉ ุงููุฒูู"
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Imฤm Ibn-khuzayma started by attesting that the reports have a certainty to them, without describing "how"
He then continues by saying that this is due to the fact that the Prophet ๏ทบ did not explain how Allฤh descended to the lower heaven, but he, nonetheless, informed us of it
He then continues by saying that this is due to the fact that the Prophet ๏ทบ did not explain how Allฤh descended to the lower heaven, but he, nonetheless, informed us of it
Further on he said that the Prophet ๏ทบ had been given the task to explain the matters of dฤซn
Therefore, it's obligatory to attest to the reports (affirmation) and to not go beyond the kayf i.e. delve further into the finer details of it since the Prophet ๏ทบ didn't go beyond that
Therefore, it's obligatory to attest to the reports (affirmation) and to not go beyond the kayf i.e. delve further into the finer details of it since the Prophet ๏ทบ didn't go beyond that
3. "Don't interpret it"
This is a classic one which people tend to misunderstand. There is always some form of interpretation when we read the nuแนฃลซแนฃ.
The real question is, what shouldn't be interpreted? Or to what degree does one leave it as it is?
This is a classic one which people tend to misunderstand. There is always some form of interpretation when we read the nuแนฃลซแนฃ.
The real question is, what shouldn't be interpreted? Or to what degree does one leave it as it is?
Imฤm al-Qฤsim said:
"ููุฐููู ุงููุฃูุญูุงุฏููุซู ุตูุญูุงุญู ุญูู ูููููุง ุฃูุตูุญูุงุจู ุงููุญูุฏููุซู ูุงููููุงุก ุจุนุถูู ุนูู ุจูุนูุถูุ ููููู ุนูููุฏูููุง ุญูููู ููุง ููุดูููู ูููููุง"
"ูููููููู ุฅูุฐูุง ููููู: ูููููู ููุถูุนู ููุฏูู ูููุ ูููููููู ุถูุญูููุ ููููููุง: ููุง ููููุณููุฑ ููุฐูุง ููููุง ุณูู ูุนูููุง ุฃูุญูุฏูุง ููููุณููุฑููู."
"ููุฐููู ุงููุฃูุญูุงุฏููุซู ุตูุญูุงุญู ุญูู ูููููุง ุฃูุตูุญูุงุจู ุงููุญูุฏููุซู ูุงููููุงุก ุจุนุถูู ุนูู ุจูุนูุถูุ ููููู ุนูููุฏูููุง ุญูููู ููุง ููุดูููู ูููููุง"
"ูููููููู ุฅูุฐูุง ููููู: ูููููู ููุถูุนู ููุฏูู ูููุ ูููููููู ุถูุญูููุ ููููููุง: ููุง ููููุณููุฑ ููุฐูุง ููููุง ุณูู ูุนูููุง ุฃูุญูุฏูุง ููููุณููุฑููู."
He said: "These authentic narrations have been transmitted by the people of hadith and the jurists, from one to another, and they are the truth for us and we won't doubt them"
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He continued: "However, when it is asked, 'How did He put his foot on Hellfire?' And 'How did He laugh?' We reply, 'They shouldn't be interpreted and we have heard no one interpreting them."
This is a clear example from the salaf where their "interpretation" stops at the how
This is a clear example from the salaf where their "interpretation" stops at the how
However, there is another context in which this statement "Don't interpret it" was used, and this was due to the followers of Jahm who went way beyond the "kayf" and re-interpreted the nuแนฃลซแนฃ to a large degree
ash-Shaybฤnฤซ said: ",ุงุชูููููู ุงููููููููุงุกู ูููููููู
ู ู
ููู ุงููู
ูุดูุฑููู ุฅูููู ุงููู
ูุบูุฑูุจู ุนูููู ุงููุฅููู
ูุงูู ุจูุงููููุฑูุขูู ููุงููุฃูุญูุงุฏููุซู ุงูููุชูู ุฌูุงุกู ุจูููุง ุงูุซููููุงุชู ุนููู ุฑูุณูููู ุงูููููู ุตููููู ุงูููู ุนููููููู ููุณููููู
ู ููู
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He continued:
"ุตูููุฉู ุงูุฑููุจูู ุนูุฒูู ููุฌูููู ู ููู ุบูููุฑู ุชูุบููููุฑู ููููุง ููุตููู ููููุง ุชูุดูุจูููู , ููู ููู ููุณููุฑู ุงููููููู ู ุดูููุฆูุง ู ููู ุฐููููู , ููููุฏู ุฎูุฑูุฌู ู ูู ููุง ููุงูู ุนููููููู ุงููููุจูููู ุตููููู ุงูููู ุนููููููู ููุณููููู ู"
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"ุตูููุฉู ุงูุฑููุจูู ุนูุฒูู ููุฌูููู ู ููู ุบูููุฑู ุชูุบููููุฑู ููููุง ููุตููู ููููุง ุชูุดูุจูููู , ููู ููู ููุณููุฑู ุงููููููู ู ุดูููุฆูุง ู ููู ุฐููููู , ููููุฏู ุฎูุฑูุฌู ู ูู ููุง ููุงูู ุนููููููู ุงููููุจูููู ุตููููู ุงูููู ุนููููููู ููุณููููู ู"
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And concluded: "ููููุงุฑููู ุงููุฌูู
ูุงุนูุฉู , ููุฅููููููู
ู ููู
ู ููุตููููุง ููููู
ู ููููุณููุฑููุง , ูููููููู ุฃูููุชูููุง ุจูู
ูุง ููู ุงููููุชูุงุจู ููุงูุณูููููุฉู ุซูู
ูู ุณูููุชููุง , ููู
ููู ููุงูู ุจููููููู ุฌูููู
ู ููููุฏู ููุงุฑููู ุงููุฌูู
ูุงุนูุฉูุ ููุฃูููููู ููุฏู ููุตููููู ุจูุตูููุฉู ููุง ุดูููุกู"
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ash-Shaybฤnฤซ: All of the jurists from the East to the West are unanimously agreed in having faith in the Qur'ฤn and the สพaแธฅฤdฤซแนฏ which came through the trustworthy narrators from the Prophet ๏ทบ on the description of the Lord without change, nor description and nor tashbฤซh
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"So whoever explained anything from that today, then he has departed from that which the Prophet ๏ทบ was upon and he has separated from jamฤสปah, for they did not describe & explain, however they gave verdicts upon what is in the Book and the Sunnah then they remained silent"
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He concluded: "(but) Whoever spoke with the saying of Jahm, then he has separated from the jamฤสปah because he described Him with the description of a non - entity"
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Obviously there are other examples, but i had to limit it to these few given the length of the thread
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Obviously there are other examples, but i had to limit it to these few given the length of the thread
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