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A (๐Ÿงต) on the question if describing Allฤh as He, or His Prophet ๏ทบ, described Himself entails tashbฤซh
We often see the followers of kalฤm dissmiss the description of Allฤh and His Messenger ๏ทบ in regards to the sifฤt
Instead they rely on dictionaries or blame Salafi's for it
In the next tweet is an example of how the average conversation with these lot goes. Notice the inconsistency in their approach.
After that i'll cite the stance of the สพaสพimma of the salaf and those who followed them
สพAสพimma of the salaf: Allฤh has a hand, as He described Himself
Ahlul kalฤm: No, that's tashbฤซh because a hand is a limb!
Salafi's: So u also deny hearing then?
Ahlul kalฤm: No we don't!
Salafi's: Why not?
Ahlul kalฤm: Because He said "Laysa kamitlihi Shay"
๐Ÿ˜’
That's how the average conversation goes
When a hand is affirmed it must be a limb according to them, but when hearing is affirmed it doesn't have to be an ear because "Laysa kamitlihi shay"
The สพaสพimma of the salaf and those who followed them were clear tho
Nuสฟaim ibn Hammฤd:
"ู…ูŽู†ู’ ุดูŽุจูŽู‘ู‡ูŽ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ูŽ ุจูุดูŽูŠู’ุกู ู…ูู†ู’ ุฎูŽู„ู’ู‚ูู‡ู ููŽู‚ูŽุฏู’ ูƒูŽููŽุฑูŽ , ูˆูŽู…ูŽู†ู’ ุฃูŽู†ู’ูƒูŽุฑูŽ ู…ูŽุง ูˆูŽุตูŽููŽ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุจูู‡ู ู†ูŽูู’ุณูŽู‡ู ููŽู‚ูŽุฏู’ ูƒูŽููŽุฑูŽ , ููŽู„ูŽูŠู’ุณูŽ ู…ูŽุง ูˆูŽุตูŽููŽ ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุจูู‡ู ู†ูŽูู’ุณูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูู‡ู ุชูŽุดู’ุจููŠู‡ูŒ"
Nuสฟaim ibn Hammฤd ุฑูŽุญูู…ูŽู‡ู ูฑู„ู„ูŽู‘ูฐู‡ู:
"Whoever makes a comparison between Allฤh and his creation has disbelieved, and whoever denies that which Allฤh has described himself with has disbelieved, and that which Allฤh and his Messenger ๏ทบ have described does not entail tashbฤซh"
Abลซ Isแธฅฤq al-แธคanbalฤซ in a debate when he was accused of tashbฤซh:
"ููŽู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ู„ูŠ: ุฃู†ุชู… ุงู„ู…ุดุจู‡ุฉ ูู‚ู„ุช: ุญุงุดุง ู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดุจู‡ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู‚ูˆู„: ูˆุฌู‡ ูƒูˆุฌู‡ูŠ ูˆูŠุฏ ูƒูŠุฏูŠ ูุฃู…ุง ู†ุญู† ูู†ู‚ูˆู„: ู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆุฌู‡ ูƒู…ุง ุฃุซุจุช ู„ู†ูุณู‡ ูˆุฌู‡ุง ูˆู„ู‡ ูŠุฏ ูƒู…ุง ุฃุซุจุช ู„ู†ูุณู‡ ูŠุฏุง ูˆู„ูŠุณ ูƒู…ุซู„ู‡ ุดุฆ ูˆู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุณู…ูŠุน ุงู„ุจุตูŠุฑ ูˆู…ู† ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ู‡ูŽุฐูŽุง ูู‚ุฏ ุณู„ู…"
*The anthropomorphist is the one who says (Allฤh's) Face is like my face and (Allฤh's)Hand is like my hand. "
1/2
"Rather, we say: โ€˜He has a Face just as He has affirmed a face for Himself, and He has a Hand just as He affirmed a Hand for Himself (and) [There is nothing like Him; and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer 42:11] Whoever says this is indeed safe."
2/2
al-แนขฤbลซnฤซ in his chapter "ุนู‚ูŠุฏุฉ ุฃู‡ู„ ุงู„ุณู†ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฌู…ุงุนุฉ ููŠ ุจุงุจ ุงู„ุตูุงุช":
"ูˆู„ุง ูŠุญุฑููˆู† ุงู„ูƒู„ู… ุนู† ู…ูˆุงุถุนู‡ุ› ุจุญู…ู„ ุงู„ูŠุฏูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุนู…ุชูŠู† ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู‚ูˆุชูŠู† ุชุญุฑูŠู ุงู„ู…ุนุชุฒู„ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฌู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ุฃู‡ู„ูƒู‡ู… ุงู„ู„ู‡.
ูˆู„ุง ูŠูƒูŠููˆู†ู‡ู…ุง ุจูƒูŠู ุฃูˆ ูŠุดุจู‡ูˆู†ู‡ู…ุง ุจุฃูŠุฏูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฎู„ูˆู‚ูŠู†ุŒ ุชุดุจูŠู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดุจู‡ุฉ ุฎุฐู„ู‡ู… ุงู„ู„ู‡"
al-แนขฤbลซnฤซ: They (ahl as-sunnah) don't distort the meaning by interpreting two hands as two powers like the muสฟtazilah & jahmiyyah, may Allฤh destroy them
They don't assign howness nor liken the Hands of Allฤh to the creation, as the anthropomorphists do, may Allฤh foresake them
adh-Dhahabฤซ: "ูุฅู† ุงู„ุชุดุจูŠู‡ ุฅู†ู…ุง ูŠู‚ุงู„:ย ูŠุฏ ูƒูŠุฏู†ุงุŒ ูˆุฃู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ู‚ูŠู„ ูŠุฏ ู„ุง ุชุดุจู‡ ุงู„ุฃูŠุฏูŠุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุฃู† ุฐุงุชู‡ ู„ุง ุชุดุจู‡ ุงู„ุฐูˆุงุชุŒ ูˆุณู…ุนู‡ ู„ุง ูŠุดุจู‡ ุงู„ุฃุณู…ุงุนุŒ ูˆุจุตุฑู‡ ู„ุง ูŠุดุจู‡ ุงู„ุฃุจุตุงุฑุŒ ูˆู„ุง ูุฑู‚ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ูุฅู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุชู†ุฒูŠู‡"
adh-Dhahabฤซ: It's only tashbฤซh when one says a Hand like we have, But if it's said, (He has) a Hand that does not resemble hands (of man) just as His Essence does not resemble (the) essence (of man), His hearing does not resemble (the) hearing (of man), and-
1/2
"His sight does not resemble (the) sight (of man), then that is indeed freeing Him from imperfection"
2/2
al-Asbahฤnฤซ:
"ููŽู„ูŽูŠู’ุณูŽ ูƒู…ุซู„ู‡ ุดูŽูŠู’ุก ูŠูŽู†ู’ูููŠ ูƒู„ ุชูŽุดู’ุจููŠู‡ ูˆุชู…ุซูŠู„ุŒ ูˆูŽู‡ููˆูŽ ุงู„ุณูŽู‘ู…ููŠุน ุงู„ู’ุจูŽุตููŠุฑุŒ ูŠูŽู†ู’ูููŠ ูƒู„ ุชูŽุนู’ุทููŠู„ ูˆูŽุชูŽุฃู’ูˆูŠู„ุŒ ููŽู‡ูŽุฐูŽุง ู…ูŽุฐู’ู‡ูŽุจ ุฃู‡ู„ ุงู„ุณู‘ู†ุฉ ูˆูŽุงู„ู’ุฌูŽู…ูŽุงุนูŽุฉ"
"[laysa kamithlihi shay 42:11] rules out any form of tashbฤซh and tamtฬฒhฬฒฤซl, and [He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer] negates any form taสฟแนญฤซl and taสพwฤซl. And this is the maแธhab of ahl as-sunnah wa l-jamฤสปah"
Ibn สฟAbd al-Barr on the accussations of the muสฟtazilah:
"ูˆูŽู…ูุญูŽุงู„ูŒ ุฃูŽู†ู’ ูŠูŽูƒููˆู†ูŽ ู…ูŽู†ู’ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุนูŽู†ู ุงู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู…ูŽุง ู‡ููˆูŽ ูููŠ ูƒูุชูŽุงุจูู‡ู ู…ูŽู†ู’ุตููˆุตูŒ ู…ูุดูŽุจูู‘ู‡ู‹ุง ุฅูุฐูŽุง ู„ูŽู…ู’ ูŠููƒูŽูŠูู‘ูู ุดูŽูŠู’ุฆู‹ุง ูˆูŽุฃูŽู‚ูŽุฑูŽู‘ ุฃูŽู†ูŽู‘ู‡ู ู„ูŽูŠู’ุณูŽ ูƒูŽู…ูุซู’ู„ูู‡ู ุดูŽูŠู’ุกูŒ"
Ibn-สฟAbd-al-Barr:
"It's impossible to say that the one who says about Allฤh that which is in His Book is an anthropomorphist when He does not describe howness, and He affirms that there is nothing like Him"
Imฤm Al-Qฤsim:
"ู„ูŽุง ูŠูŽู†ู’ุจูŽุบููŠ ู„ูุฃูŽุญูŽุฏู ุฃูŽู†ู’ ูŠูŽุตูููŽ ุงูŽู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ูŽ ุฅูู„ูŽู‘ุง ุจูู…ูŽุง ูˆูŽุตูŽููŽ ุจูู‡ู ู†ูŽูู’ุณูŽู‡ู ูููŠ ุงูŽู„ู’ู‚ูุฑู’ุขู†ูุŒ ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ูŠูุดูŽุจูู‘ู‡ู ูŠูŽุฏูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ุจูุดูŽูŠู’ุกูุŒ ูˆูŽู„ูŽุง ูˆูŽุฌู’ู‡ูŽู‡ู ุจูุดูŽูŠู’ุกูุŒ ูˆูŽู„ูŽูƒูู†ู’ ูŠูŽู‚ููˆู„ู: ู„ูŽู‡ู ูŠูŽุฏูŽุงู†ู ูƒูŽู…ูŽุง ูˆูŽุตูŽููŽ ู†ูŽูู’ุณูŽู‡ู ูููŠ ุงูŽู„ู’ู‚ูุฑู’ุขู†ูุŒ ูˆูŽู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽุฌู’ู‡ูŒ ูƒูŽู…ูŽุง ูˆูŽุตูŽููŽ ู†ูŽูู’ุณูŽู‡ู"
"It's not for anyone to describe Allฤh except with what He has described Himself with in the Qurสผฤn, and he does not compare His Hand with anything, nor His Face with anything."
"But, he should say: "He has two Hands just as He described Himself in the Qurสผฤn, He has a Face as He has described Himself with."
Ishฤq b.Rฤhwayh:
ุฅู†ู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุชุดุจูŠู‡ ุฅุฐุง ู‚ุงู„: ูŠุฏ ูƒูŠุฏุŒ ุฃูˆ ู…ุซู„ ูŠุฏุŒ ุฃูˆ ุณู…ุน ูƒุณู…ุนุŒ ุฃูˆ ู…ุซู„ ุณู…ุนุŒ ูุฅุฐุง ู‚ุงู„: ุณู…ุน ูƒุณู…ุนุŒ ุฃูˆ ู…ุซู„ ุณู…ุนุŒ ูู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุดุจูŠู‡.
ูˆุฃู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ู‚ุงู„ ูƒู…ุง ู‚ุงู„: ู„ู„ู‡ ุชุนุงู„ู‰ ูŠุฏุŒ ูˆุณู…ุนุŒ ูˆุจุตุฑุŒ ูˆู„ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„: ูƒูŠูุŒ ูˆู„ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„: ู…ุซู„ ุณู…ุนุŒ ูˆู„ุง ูƒุณู…ุนุŒ ูู‡ุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ุชุดุจูŠู‡ู‹ุงุŒ ูˆู‡ูˆ ูƒู…ุง ู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุชุนุงู„ู‰ ููŠ ูƒุชุงุจู‡

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