@bhoomiputraa often defines his mission as that of "ending Hindu shame."
With one essay, 2+ years ago, he did precisely that for me - and set me upon a journey. I quote threaded that essay extensively then, and I think it's only apt I do so again for his latest seminal piece.
With one essay, 2+ years ago, he did precisely that for me - and set me upon a journey. I quote threaded that essay extensively then, and I think it's only apt I do so again for his latest seminal piece.
A question he often asks, which I don't see detractors offering a coherent response to, is - "what is it that we stand for?" (not that I have an answer).
As before, if you haven't read the essay itself, please do that first. You deserve to.
indiafacts.org.in
As before, if you haven't read the essay itself, please do that first. You deserve to.
indiafacts.org.in
"Not many on our side may resonate with my cynical outlook on high technology and the centralized state."
A take one does not even need to identify as Hindu/dhārmika to find agreement with. One only needs to be intellectually honest, and particularly aware.
A take one does not even need to identify as Hindu/dhārmika to find agreement with. One only needs to be intellectually honest, and particularly aware.
"But just because some subjective truths are quantifiable along arbitrary metrics it does not actually make them objective.....also fails to take into consideration the second and third order downstream effects."
The issue with scientific methodology succinctly explained.
The issue with scientific methodology succinctly explained.
This is an interesting contrast he makes against 'māyā':
"The Western mind perceived this phenomenon in the physical world as quantum physics and in the social world as postmodern-relativism."
I'd reduce it a step more. Western mind is stuck in dichotomy. In polarity.
"The Western mind perceived this phenomenon in the physical world as quantum physics and in the social world as postmodern-relativism."
I'd reduce it a step more. Western mind is stuck in dichotomy. In polarity.
Either way, the problem manifest is just as he describes:
"While the Hindu mind responded to maya with moksha and dharma, the Western postmodern mind continues to struggle with it and most frequently responds with hedonism and/or nihilism (everything is meaningless)."
"While the Hindu mind responded to maya with moksha and dharma, the Western postmodern mind continues to struggle with it and most frequently responds with hedonism and/or nihilism (everything is meaningless)."
I continue to be amazed at how much sense Maragatham makes, and at how unknown, how limited of reach, his voice is.
Let me add, there are questions he routinely asks of capitalism, modern tech, globalism etc. which even those who go after him viciously do not offer response so.
Let me add, there are questions he routinely asks of capitalism, modern tech, globalism etc. which even those who go after him viciously do not offer response so.
Hehe, years of watching Harris vs. Peterson on "truth," and Bhūmiputra lays it bare:
"Those truths that were seen as leading us towards the absolute truth were considered higher truths and those truths that led us away from the absolute truth were deemed lower truths."
"Those truths that were seen as leading us towards the absolute truth were considered higher truths and those truths that led us away from the absolute truth were deemed lower truths."
It's an abiding design principle of our civilization.
asato mā sadgamaya, tamaso mā jyotirgamaya.
When we say that the same truths can be found at all levels of our civilization, this is one of them.
We take it as a design principle for Ṛta in Design.
asato mā sadgamaya, tamaso mā jyotirgamaya.
When we say that the same truths can be found at all levels of our civilization, this is one of them.
We take it as a design principle for Ṛta in Design.
And if anyone's made sense of the synaptic reconnection ontology, epistemology, teleology I've been rambling about in my work, they'd recall that this principle informs that schema as well.
It is central to why dharma is the endeavor to be in consonance with ṛta.
It is central to why dharma is the endeavor to be in consonance with ṛta.
Some great laying down of wire by Maragatham-
"-in normal life, the traditions have already parsed and sorted our values.....designed to lead us closer to the absolute truth."
"tradition acts as a road-map and a decision-making machine for human communities and individuals."
"-in normal life, the traditions have already parsed and sorted our values.....designed to lead us closer to the absolute truth."
"tradition acts as a road-map and a decision-making machine for human communities and individuals."
To those who might scoff at that, we should quote-
"Study your predecessors' works intently, to see how they solved problems. Try to figure out why they made the design choices they did; this is the most illuminating question to ask yourself."
- Fred Brooks, Design of Design
"Study your predecessors' works intently, to see how they solved problems. Try to figure out why they made the design choices they did; this is the most illuminating question to ask yourself."
- Fred Brooks, Design of Design
We can follow Maragatham now as he essentially lays out a blueprint for cultural design, indeed - for ṛta in design. With a special turned gaze I have seen articulated only from him.
A friendly reminder, this is the essay again-
indiafacts.org.in
A friendly reminder, this is the essay again-
indiafacts.org.in
"In the Hindu world, the sticks that make our nest are the samskaaras."
"What happened with the advent of Western modernity is that even the last vestiges of Christian “traditions” were discarded and individuals fell from their human nests and hurtled towards the ground."
"What happened with the advent of Western modernity is that even the last vestiges of Christian “traditions” were discarded and individuals fell from their human nests and hurtled towards the ground."
"This study of the imploded man through the Freudian lens came to be celebrated as our “real selves” while the original human nest was derided as “regressive”. The fall from the nest into the net was celebrated as “freedom”."
"That structure, that replaced our traditional values, was the technological state — our new tree of values."
"To prevent or postpone this eventuality, we offer ourselves up as resources to the Tech-State — as fuel to its fire, to keep the engine going."
"To prevent or postpone this eventuality, we offer ourselves up as resources to the Tech-State — as fuel to its fire, to keep the engine going."
That quote on fueling the tech-fire is evocative. Sacrifice and yajña are core to us, beginning with Puruṣa itself.
But that was in the era of ṛta. Now, as I state in my schema, we live in the technological cocoon.
An anṛta.
But that was in the era of ṛta. Now, as I state in my schema, we live in the technological cocoon.
An anṛta.
And Maragatham says of this anṛta-
"The Tech-State does not want community, it does not want religion, and it does not want tradition or meaning. All it wants is for us to conform to the 9 to 5 routines, and in return it offers us distractions and addictions."
"The Tech-State does not want community, it does not want religion, and it does not want tradition or meaning. All it wants is for us to conform to the 9 to 5 routines, and in return it offers us distractions and addictions."
Grim, but true words:
"We need to put our heads down, practice our samskaaras, and connect with our children. We need to make sure that when this foreign flood has abated, we would have retained a third of our Bharatiya selves. I am pessimistic if we can retain more than that."
"We need to put our heads down, practice our samskaaras, and connect with our children. We need to make sure that when this foreign flood has abated, we would have retained a third of our Bharatiya selves. I am pessimistic if we can retain more than that."
A side note-
"1. The Tech-State is Universalist. It wants us all. It wants to control our dreams. It wants to replace our Gods."
@bhoomiputraa have you read American Gods?
"1. The Tech-State is Universalist. It wants us all. It wants to control our dreams. It wants to replace our Gods."
@bhoomiputraa have you read American Gods?
"What does the Tech-State want?
-its goal appears to be “Efficiency” with a capital E. To this new “Efficiency God,” anything that does not result in greater and faster flow of resources, energy, and money will be deemed worthy of sacrifice and elimination."
-its goal appears to be “Efficiency” with a capital E. To this new “Efficiency God,” anything that does not result in greater and faster flow of resources, energy, and money will be deemed worthy of sacrifice and elimination."
"the Tech-State finds it necessary to control them as far as possible, and for this it is essential to have them all operating under a single Operating System (OS)."
I do quite like the OS analogy, as one could gather from this image.
I do quite like the OS analogy, as one could gather from this image.
"The Tech-State’s character is not entirely clear yet, but it appears to be aligned with a mechanical urge to realize pure efficiency…"
There isn't a better articulation of why I consider nṛta/anṛta to be the same, dangerous ontological category.
There isn't a better articulation of why I consider nṛta/anṛta to be the same, dangerous ontological category.
Spoken too quickly! There is better articulation! Maragatham has it:
"great difference between Aurobindonian view and Tech-State view is that former places humans...as entities who have agency to evolve, while latter views humans as disposable resources."
Thus, anṛta.
"great difference between Aurobindonian view and Tech-State view is that former places humans...as entities who have agency to evolve, while latter views humans as disposable resources."
Thus, anṛta.
Here, @bhoomiputraa, we might have a slight, semantic difference of view. Will articulate towards the end.
For first let us note the area of vehement agreement:
"Hindus who believe that we can create a Dharmic Tech-State,...are being too optimistic and perhaps naïve. Yes, we have to deal with our asuric rivals, but let us not drink their asuric Kool-Aid."
"Hindus who believe that we can create a Dharmic Tech-State,...are being too optimistic and perhaps naïve. Yes, we have to deal with our asuric rivals, but let us not drink their asuric Kool-Aid."
Do yourself a favor, all, consume this seminal essay.
indiafacts.org.in
indiafacts.org.in
On the disagreement, I think there is fundamental difference between Orwellian and Huxleyan dystopias.
In latter, people do not even know they are in a dystopia.
A literal anṛta.
We are headed not for the Orwellian, but the Huxleyan tragedy.
In latter, people do not even know they are in a dystopia.
A literal anṛta.
We are headed not for the Orwellian, but the Huxleyan tragedy.
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