A fascinating revelation for me from pop-genetics -
You could have a family that's part of an endogamous group for 1000 yrs
Yet 4500 yrs ago:
Dad's patrilineal line may be in Ukraine
Uncle X's in IVC
Grand-Uncle Y's in S.India/SE asia
Today they belong to this single caste
You could have a family that's part of an endogamous group for 1000 yrs
Yet 4500 yrs ago:
Dad's patrilineal line may be in Ukraine
Uncle X's in IVC
Grand-Uncle Y's in S.India/SE asia
Today they belong to this single caste
With respect to the broader autosomal ancestry, all these three people will be v v similar if they have been part of same caste for hundreds of years...
Roughly similar Steppe-IVC-AASI split
But patrilineal line as recent as 2500 BCE will place each of them in remote corners
Roughly similar Steppe-IVC-AASI split
But patrilineal line as recent as 2500 BCE will place each of them in remote corners
This is borne from my own family's data!
My y-haplo (R1A-Z94) places my patrilineal line likely in the steppe 4500 yrs ago
A couple of distant uncles (related to my father's mother) had L and H respectively
L being Iranic / IVC origin, H possibly AASI
My y-haplo (R1A-Z94) places my patrilineal line likely in the steppe 4500 yrs ago
A couple of distant uncles (related to my father's mother) had L and H respectively
L being Iranic / IVC origin, H possibly AASI
Yet they are all from same caste. And likely have been for 2-3K years in the same varNa at least.
But the patrilineal lines are markedly different
But the patrilineal lines are markedly different
Another insight from pop genetics is that we now most definitely know that "Gotra" is not a super strict marker of common patrilineal descent
We've seen enough cases where people belong to totally different, unrelated y-haplos within same gotra..
We've seen enough cases where people belong to totally different, unrelated y-haplos within same gotra..
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