i understand this pov and its one i held for many years and i know it sounds reasonable but is it based on fact? and what are the eventual implications of this pov?
in contrast to this, some trads, including me, have been trying to bring to light an alternate pov that imo, is
in contrast to this, some trads, including me, have been trying to bring to light an alternate pov that imo, is
more accurate and has better future outcomes 4 both SC communities & other communities.
the idea that ambedkar specifically gave SCs rights is false. pre-constitution, no community had rights, not just SCs. so there is no reason for the SC communities to be especially enamoured
the idea that ambedkar specifically gave SCs rights is false. pre-constitution, no community had rights, not just SCs. so there is no reason for the SC communities to be especially enamoured
of the constitution while other are questioning its epistemological basis in this new awakening.
the idea of rights came into being only with industrial surplus, prior to which we all only had duties. if the SC communities say that they no longer find those duties palatable,
the idea of rights came into being only with industrial surplus, prior to which we all only had duties. if the SC communities say that they no longer find those duties palatable,
I get that and fully support their journey to new avenues of livelihood.
If the SC communities say that they want 2b respected for the work they did & their contributions to bharatiya life, i fully support that too.
If they say the old taboos are irrelevant in the industrial
If the SC communities say that they want 2b respected for the work they did & their contributions to bharatiya life, i fully support that too.
If they say the old taboos are irrelevant in the industrial
age and saucha-based restrictions should be lifted, I fully support the start of this dialog and a final resolution within the hindu framework (in which many non-revolutionary outcomes are possible).
we must keep in mind that SC communities were not enslaved.
we must keep in mind that SC communities were not enslaved.
there were saucha-based restrictions, but apart from those, they were a free people & they fought hard against the brits to keep that freedom. in exchange for the loss of saucha-based privileges, they were granted liberties (related 2 marriage/work/food) that other jaatis did not
have. they had a fully independent religious and social life, participated on an equal footing in agriculture, construction & craft & had monopolies on their trade as well as special religious standing in certain ritual settings. They were not victims.
The fall of SC communities
The fall of SC communities
in fact, can ironically be traced to the coming of the british. It was industrialization & the theft of the commons by the state that rendered all hand and land-based skill sets irrelevant. It was from that point in history that the stories of oppression begin as previously
self-sufficient communities start squabbling over the remaining crumbs.
It is not beneficial to the SC communities nor to inter-community relationships in the future if we all start seeing Hindu society as inherently oppressive and the british system as inherently emancipatory.
It is not beneficial to the SC communities nor to inter-community relationships in the future if we all start seeing Hindu society as inherently oppressive and the british system as inherently emancipatory.
this is a false dichotomy.
we have to ask what the old way stood for and what the new way stands for.
we have to ask what the best compromise way of bringing the best of both ways together.
we have to ask what the old way stood for and what the new way stands for.
we have to ask what the best compromise way of bringing the best of both ways together.
we have to ask how we can honour the sacrifices *all* our ancestors made in upholding our communal and religious identities.
all other roads lead to conversion.
all other roads lead to conversion.
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