7 million men aged 25-54 in the USA are not working
What are they doing?
Volunteering? Worship? Care-work?
“Playing Call of Duty stoned”
They report 2000 hours a year of screen time (w/ pain meds)
This phenomenon is far less severe in Western Europe
wsj.com
What are they doing?
Volunteering? Worship? Care-work?
“Playing Call of Duty stoned”
They report 2000 hours a year of screen time (w/ pain meds)
This phenomenon is far less severe in Western Europe
wsj.com
Eberstadt does not provide cross-country comparative data on pandemic unemployment insurance.
So I had a quick look.
instituteforgovernment.org.uk
So I had a quick look.
instituteforgovernment.org.uk
Personally,
I don’t think it’s so helpful to look at *average* annual hours per worker.
I’d like to know whether and why the specific kinds of men who have dropped out of the labour force feel that they cannot work part-time.
Why don’t they pursue European work-life balance?
I don’t think it’s so helpful to look at *average* annual hours per worker.
I’d like to know whether and why the specific kinds of men who have dropped out of the labour force feel that they cannot work part-time.
Why don’t they pursue European work-life balance?
Economists, please feel free to correct me and point to data that I’m missing.
I’d like to know why the USA is an outlier!
Eberstadt doesn’t explain it at all.
I’d like to know why the USA is an outlier!
Eberstadt doesn’t explain it at all.
If low marriage predicts non-work, you’d expect the US to have a low share of marriage.
So I just checked @OurWorldInData
US marriage rates are relatively high
But ofc we need to look at the distribution!
Is marriage low among poorer groups in Europe (as in the USA)?
So I just checked @OurWorldInData
US marriage rates are relatively high
But ofc we need to look at the distribution!
Is marriage low among poorer groups in Europe (as in the USA)?
[Based on my knowledge of the research on the USA, I think this is because marriage rates are low among working class Americans.
Couples have kids, but men leave
Women get lumbered with the responsibility, then continue to work as single mothers]
Couples have kids, but men leave
Women get lumbered with the responsibility, then continue to work as single mothers]
[This book is GREAT but I find it sliiiiightly surprising that there are sooo many obvious connections to gender that are omitted!
Yo! Economists of male employment! Talk to gender scholars! They might know useful things! 😛]
Yo! Economists of male employment! Talk to gender scholars! They might know useful things! 😛]
When I look at OECD data on unemployment benefits, the USA does not seem unusually generous.
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Maybe Eberstadt would say there’s a difference in definitions or scope.
But this should be discussed!!
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Maybe Eberstadt would say there’s a difference in definitions or scope.
But this should be discussed!!
Surely the obvious label for non-working US men is
“Gaming Alone”
😜
“Gaming Alone”
😜
“Having a criminal record is a key missing piece in explaining why work rates and LFPRs have collapsed much more dramatically in America than other affluent Western societies”
- Eberstadt
[NB. his chapter on criminality provides zero data on other countries]
- Eberstadt
[NB. his chapter on criminality provides zero data on other countries]
If rising convictions are a major cause of jobless, unmarried men,
I would be curious to know how this strong push for “law and order” relates to the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.
Paging @AlthoffLukas
What’s the geography of this trend?
I would be curious to know how this strong push for “law and order” relates to the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.
Paging @AlthoffLukas
What’s the geography of this trend?
So if incarcerations are the big exogenous shock, affecting both marriages and joblessness,
I wonder if there’s subnational heterogeneity in incarcerations and the background historical political economy of those subnational differences?
Rid me of my ignorance if you know!
I wonder if there’s subnational heterogeneity in incarcerations and the background historical political economy of those subnational differences?
Rid me of my ignorance if you know!
64% OF UNEMPLOYED MEN HAVE BEEN ARRESTED
46% HAVE BEEN CONVICTED
Over time, there is also a negative correlation between rising criminal convictions and falling male labour force participation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov Bushway et al (2022)
46% HAVE BEEN CONVICTED
Over time, there is also a negative correlation between rising criminal convictions and falling male labour force participation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov Bushway et al (2022)
Now, is male joblessness really a problem?
Eberstadt notes:
- slower economic growth
- welfare dependence, budgetary pressures
- family breakdown
- very high poverty among children of single mothers
- social disengagement (or as I call it “Gaming Alone”)
Eberstadt notes:
- slower economic growth
- welfare dependence, budgetary pressures
- family breakdown
- very high poverty among children of single mothers
- social disengagement (or as I call it “Gaming Alone”)
What’s the solution?
First, I think we need a better, more comparative diagnosis of the problem!
I want to understand heterogeneity within the USA, the underlying political economy, and cross-country comparisons!
Those seem like big important unanswered questions to me!
😀
First, I think we need a better, more comparative diagnosis of the problem!
I want to understand heterogeneity within the USA, the underlying political economy, and cross-country comparisons!
Those seem like big important unanswered questions to me!
😀
Anyway!
Eberstadt suggests 3 solutions:
1) supporting business creation for job creation
2) a “work first” principle of social welfare
3) better re-entry policies for ex-felons
Eberstadt suggests 3 solutions:
1) supporting business creation for job creation
2) a “work first” principle of social welfare
3) better re-entry policies for ex-felons
Sounds sensible!
Though I think this still omits many potential causes of jobless
1) By Eberstadt’s own data, there’s a X-country correlation between working hours & LFP.
Why isn’t a work-life balance possible in the USA?
Does it relate to health insurance?
Though I think this still omits many potential causes of jobless
1) By Eberstadt’s own data, there’s a X-country correlation between working hours & LFP.
Why isn’t a work-life balance possible in the USA?
Does it relate to health insurance?
(3) Better re-entry policies for ex-felons are of course valuable.
But that omits what he himself identifies as the underlying exogenous shock: rising incarcerations.
So I’d want to better understand its background historical political economy and subnational heterogeneity.
But that omits what he himself identifies as the underlying exogenous shock: rising incarcerations.
So I’d want to better understand its background historical political economy and subnational heterogeneity.
We really need a test of all these competing hypotheses..
As done by @kearney_melissa & @kgahome!
Contra Eberstardt, they emphasise LABOUR DEMAND
Less weight to SSDI & incarceration
nber.org
As done by @kearney_melissa & @kgahome!
Contra Eberstardt, they emphasise LABOUR DEMAND
Less weight to SSDI & incarceration
nber.org
“When Work Disappears” by @davidautor @ProfDavidDorn & @gordon_h_hanson provides strong evidence for this emphasis on labour demand:
Trade shocks reduce young adult males’ employment and earnings.
This leads to more unwed mothers and children in poor single parent families.
Trade shocks reduce young adult males’ employment and earnings.
This leads to more unwed mothers and children in poor single parent families.
Germany’s unemployment system also has different design.
🇩🇪’s “Kurzarbeit” pays businesses to retain employees. Workers also agreed to reduce their hours
Whereas in 🇺🇸 , many workers were simply cut loose
propublica.org
🇩🇪’s “Kurzarbeit” pays businesses to retain employees. Workers also agreed to reduce their hours
Whereas in 🇺🇸 , many workers were simply cut loose
propublica.org
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