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Patriot still has the same failures as 30y ago.
This thread is specially about the American tax payer, who deserve to spend their money on something that works and a transparent company. These systems cost billions.
Well, to understand this, we must come back to 1991.
Patriot still has the same failures as 30y ago.
This thread is specially about the American tax payer, who deserve to spend their money on something that works and a transparent company. These systems cost billions.
Well, to understand this, we must come back to 1991.
2/11
During the 1991 Gulf War, the public was led to believe the that the Patriot had near-perfect performance, intercepting 45 of 47 Scud missiles.
The truth was a system w failures and only 9% of successful interceptions.
The company blamed a software
washingtonpost.com
During the 1991 Gulf War, the public was led to believe the that the Patriot had near-perfect performance, intercepting 45 of 47 Scud missiles.
The truth was a system w failures and only 9% of successful interceptions.
The company blamed a software
washingtonpost.com
3/11
During the Iraqi Freedom:
The command reported that the Patriot missile defense system, scored a perfect nine for nine in interceptions.
The truth was that Iraq launched ballistics and cruise missiles, but Patriots didn't intercept any.
armscontrol.org
During the Iraqi Freedom:
The command reported that the Patriot missile defense system, scored a perfect nine for nine in interceptions.
The truth was that Iraq launched ballistics and cruise missiles, but Patriots didn't intercept any.
armscontrol.org
4/11
In 2015
NATOโs Patriots fail to stop Syrian missile hitting Turkey.
hurriyetdailynews.com
In 2016 it failed e times to take down a drone in Israel
timesofisrael.com
Any AD can fail at these points, but maybe we are facing a major guidance issue there. See more:
In 2015
NATOโs Patriots fail to stop Syrian missile hitting Turkey.
hurriyetdailynews.com
In 2016 it failed e times to take down a drone in Israel
timesofisrael.com
Any AD can fail at these points, but maybe we are facing a major guidance issue there. See more:
timesofisrael.com/idf-we-tried-aโฆ
IDF fails 3 times to bring down drone over Golan
Apparent air-to-air strike and two Patriot missiles couldn't take out UAV that flew into Israeli air...
hurriyetdailynews.com/natos-patriotsโฆ
NATOโs Patriots fail to stop Syrian missile hitting Turkey - Tรผrkiye News
Questions are being raised after Patriot batteries placed in three provinces failed to prevent a Syr...
5/11
In 2018, in an attempt to intercept a missile from Yemen, the Patriot had a catastrophic failure, making annU-Turn and hitting the soil, letting over 17 people injured.
Saudi-US claimed intercepting all the 7 Yemen missiles, but they intercept 0. foreignpolicy.com
In 2018, in an attempt to intercept a missile from Yemen, the Patriot had a catastrophic failure, making annU-Turn and hitting the soil, letting over 17 people injured.
Saudi-US claimed intercepting all the 7 Yemen missiles, but they intercept 0. foreignpolicy.com
6/11
Probably this was the first image about this "U-turn" issue , but the problem is being reported by veterans since first Iraq war.
Some Russian missiles had the same problem sometime ago, but there are different architectures and mainly, different costs involved.
Probably this was the first image about this "U-turn" issue , but the problem is being reported by veterans since first Iraq war.
Some Russian missiles had the same problem sometime ago, but there are different architectures and mainly, different costs involved.
7/11
In Ukraine during the last weeks the U-turn issue appeared again and many times.
These images are from May 16 and a missile, apparently a Patriot, had the old malfunction and hit the city after an U-turn.
In Ukraine during the last weeks the U-turn issue appeared again and many times.
These images are from May 16 and a missile, apparently a Patriot, had the old malfunction and hit the city after an U-turn.
8/11
Here again another AD missile didn't made a complete U-turn before hit the city.
Here again another AD missile didn't made a complete U-turn before hit the city.
9/11
Here again other AD missile didn't made the U-turn, but equally hit the city.
Here again other AD missile didn't made the U-turn, but equally hit the city.
10/11
Here what appear to be a Patriot MSE just hit the river, what is unacceptable for an AD missile. These missile explode on air of they miss the target. Even the Soviet missiles have this mechanism.
Here what appear to be a Patriot MSE just hit the river, what is unacceptable for an AD missile. These missile explode on air of they miss the target. Even the Soviet missiles have this mechanism.
11/11
Again in Ukraine another Patriot Pac-3 CRI crashes on the road. It's possible to see that the propulsion is active.
The picture bring the evidence about being a Pac-3 CRI.
Again in Ukraine another Patriot Pac-3 CRI crashes on the road. It's possible to see that the propulsion is active.
The picture bring the evidence about being a Pac-3 CRI.
Note:
When a Defense Missile miss the target, it just active a self detonation mechanism and explode in few seconds.
Why also this mechanism is failing in the Patriot missiles?
Defense missiles reaching the city from the skies and with active propulsion isn't acceptable.
When a Defense Missile miss the target, it just active a self detonation mechanism and explode in few seconds.
Why also this mechanism is failing in the Patriot missiles?
Defense missiles reaching the city from the skies and with active propulsion isn't acceptable.
Note 2:
With every footage prohibited in Ukraine, it's a perfect place for Raytheon hide their performance, while the authorities keep parroting 100% of interceptions.
I'm talking here about a very serious issue and behavior, compromising billions from the American tax payer.
With every footage prohibited in Ukraine, it's a perfect place for Raytheon hide their performance, while the authorities keep parroting 100% of interceptions.
I'm talking here about a very serious issue and behavior, compromising billions from the American tax payer.
Note 3:
I have no doubts about the improvement in Ukr air defenses during the last months. They are operating 9 different systems there and the capital is much safer than before.
The point here is that a system costing billions of dollars can't have failures for so many years.
I have no doubts about the improvement in Ukr air defenses during the last months. They are operating 9 different systems there and the capital is much safer than before.
The point here is that a system costing billions of dollars can't have failures for so many years.
Note 4:
Just adding this note for people who claim that all problems came from Pac-2.
Pac-3 MSE Misfire during recent tests in 2020.
But, again: My main question is about the U-turn bug. I'd like to understand this bug and why Raytheon didn't fix.
defensenews.com
Just adding this note for people who claim that all problems came from Pac-2.
Pac-3 MSE Misfire during recent tests in 2020.
But, again: My main question is about the U-turn bug. I'd like to understand this bug and why Raytheon didn't fix.
defensenews.com
Note 5:
In 2012, the yearly cost for Patriots maintenance was around $800 millions.
Actually the US spend $16-18 Bi annually, plus the salary for 11.000 operators.
Differently from other companies like LM or GD, they don't reveal the maintenance costs.
breakingdefense.com
In 2012, the yearly cost for Patriots maintenance was around $800 millions.
Actually the US spend $16-18 Bi annually, plus the salary for 11.000 operators.
Differently from other companies like LM or GD, they don't reveal the maintenance costs.
breakingdefense.com
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